Hi Pierre, this paper might be interesting and I don't know if you guys have this already on your list: https://arxiv.org/abs/2510.00700 Best & looking forward to see you in Berlin Timm -- Leibniz Universität Hannover Cluster of Excellence PhoenixD HOT – Hannover Centre for Optical Technologies Phytophotonics Group Nienburger Straße 17 30167 Hannover, Germany phone: +49 511 762-12195 e-mail: timm.landes@hot.uni-hannover.de web: www.hot.uni-hannover.de / www.botanik.uni-hannover.de